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Subject: None Re:Good idea. Too much pantyhose IMO.

Date: Wed 10/06/15 20:43:55 GMT

Name: Magician ex

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Nicely put MK - can't argue against such sound logic!!  Quite frankly, whatever anyone produces I am grateful even if I don't like the content, because I know others will like it, and I remember those dark days before I connected to the internet in 1997 and found Eric Elsas site. That day was an eye opener to find out that I wasn't the only person with this fetish.

 

They way things have progressed since then is great for this community, and I am thankful that so many invest so much time and money making the websites and allowing the rest of us to part of their endeavours.

 

Magician

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By MK - wamtec@comcast.net us Wed 10/06/15 16:01:41 GMT

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Great topic for discussion.....cos this is really about the difference between a person who is an "artist" and remains true to his or her own style or art form, or a person who does things purely for commercial reasons to make money and so he does what the fans dictate he does....the artist or whore concept. True music artists don't do what their fans want them to do, they just create their music and the fans either like it or not.

 

Nobody would ever say to Eric Clapton "gee...I am getting bored with you playing the blues all the time and so I prefer that you do rap music instead". Likewise Led Zeppelin have always done their own style their way and refuse to crossover to do pop music. Of course there are singers like Taylor Swift who are more interested in making money and being famous, so they ditch their old style of Country Music and crossover to do mainstream Pop music instead. But Leon is like Eric Clapton and will do what he likes in his own style. Just as Erik Elsas has his own style and preferences e.g. Erik told me he hates garter belts and stockings so that is why you will never see those things in any of his videos.  ASplashofGlamour never use pantyhose or stockings in their videos, so they are a bare legs oriented site.

 

In the music world the fans do not tell the music artists what to do, they just follow those artists where they like their style, and ignore those artists they don't care for.

 

The reality is, if there was money to be made by becoming a wetlook producer and catering to all styles and tastes as determined by the fans, then there would be lots of commercially oriented wetlook producers starting up, who have no vision of there own and merely want to make money by catering to customer requests only. But the reality is all the wetlook producers I know are lucky if they can cover their expenses for their last project and be able to do their next project....so wetlook producers are not wealthy business people and they are struggling artists who only make enough sales to cover their expenses if they are lucky. So, I am sure many producers feel the same as I do...i.e. if I am going to do something that I stand a high chance of losing my shirt on, my number one rule is to only do things that I like, cos at least if I lose money on that project I will have stayed true to my style and end up with something that I enjoyed making.

 

The Grateful Dead never played pop music or did what the fans told them to do.....they just did their own thing and they had their own loyal fans and followers....and people who wanted other styles of music just followed other pop stars instead.

 

So I think we should just let Leon do his thing in his own style.....and just because Flaviu and UFA and myself also love pantyhose and make pantyhose videos too.....so be it.....we all like the same thing. And for those people who prefer bare legs there is ASplashofGlamour and that is their preferred style.  

 

I can't speak for Leon, but I can speak for myself and my pantyhose preferences, and I will never do what the fans tell me to do unless they are commissioning a custom video to be made, so you would have to pay me NOT to have pantyhose in my videos.....and I bet if you posed the same question to UFA they would not want to shoot scenes without pantyhose cos that is their main theme and interest and once you remove their main interest, they would lose their motivation, cos no wetlook producer is getting rich by making video sales, and they only do what they do to please themselves, and if the fans like what they do, thats cool, and if they do not like their style, so be it, the fans can look for other producers or start making their own videos in the style they prefer.

 

One last thing....there is another perspective when you say you hate pantyhose because Leon and Flaviu and I may use pantyhose in scenes you may consider to be abnomal (e.g. pantyhose worn under jeans, or pantyhose worn under stockings).....and so basically you are saying you prefer "the more normal" scenes where a girl would normally be in bare legs in that same situation.....so...from your perspective, you consider the "abnormal" to be weird and you consider "normal" to be sexy. From my opposite perspective, I consider "normal" to be mundane and boring and the abnormal peaks my interest, cos abnormal is rare and I find it sexy....e.g. if I want to see wetlook girls in nice dresses with bare legs, I can find tens of thousands of those videos on Youtube already under the "Trash the Dress" genre.....but I find those boring, cos I cannot find any TTD videos where the girls wear pantyhose....which is commonly worn at weddings....but you never find TTD videos with pantyhose on Youtube.

 

If you are a heels fan.....what turns you on more.....heels that you see in normal everyday situations.....or heels being using in abnomal situations.....like this

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnTWhk1Ey4k

 

Personally I find "the normal" to be boring and the abnormal to be interesting.......which is the very essence of the wetlook culture...i.e. it is normal to wear a swimsuit when swimming and it is abnormal to be swimming fully clothed.

 

MK

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By xelab - mail@xelab.at at Wed 10/06/15 11:52:18 GMT

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tastes are different. i love pantyhose! thanks leon!
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By Magician - ex Wed 10/06/15 11:04:01 GMT

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I third those comments - no pantyhose!!!!!

 

I respect that many people enjoy stockings and pantyhose, but what about all those who do not?

If you go out on the weekend most girls in their short skirts will have bare legs even in the winter, but this does not seem to be reflected in the wetlook community, with maybe the exception of A Splash Of Glamour which is my new favourite site. As you say, pantyhose under jeans?? What's that all about?

 

Leon sites are excellent and the content and quality of photography is also excellent, but I do not buy many sets due to the stockings - occasionally Leon posts a set with nude pantyhose which gets my interest as I can pretend the legs are nude.

 

All I ask from all wetlook producers is a variety, after all, if you're running a business why would you want to alienate a section of the community?

 

Magician

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By Newwet - fr Wed 10/06/15 08:38:44 GMT

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I'm with you on that one, but not for the same reasons.

 

It's annoying to see pantyhose everywhere, even under leggings, someday we'll have pantyhose under pantyhose ffs!

 

It feels like 95% of the content produced features pantyhose, and that's the reason i don't buy some updates because i feel it would have looked better without it.

 

Don't get me wrong, i like pantyhose, it looks nice, but i'm having a bit of an overdose. Bare legs looks nice too.

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By joe - uu Wed 10/06/15 08:24:28 GMT

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Heels feel much better without and it looks much sexier!
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By Wetlookfan - ru Wed 10/06/15 08:01:20 GMT

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Usually Leon uses black pantyhose in streetsplash.com. What about another colors: grey, brown, blue pantyhose?

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