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Subject: Thumbs Down Re:Unethical YOUR WRONG JACK

Date: Fri 22/04/16 17:49:40 GMT

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Yes, in today's world, you are recorded everywhere you go, but that argument really doesn't apply to you, because frankly, you aren't the one doing the video taping. You are the one taking video someone else captured and uploading it to your site. If you are uploading images you, yourself captured, then you could successfully argue, that you could record people in public and upload it to youtube and charge a fee (Which is what some producers have done) But you aren't doing that. You are uploading someone else's work to your site, (Even though that person is not a producer) and charging to see those images.

 

 

Respectfully, Babyspet, in my opinion, you are stepping over a very fine legal line. You can argue that the material you find for free online is within public domain, but it may not hold up in a court, under copyright laws. Under copyright law, in the U.S, the minute someone records an image, it belongs to them, and they may do with it whatever they please. If they share it publicly, that does not mean it is free for the taking. Nor does it become the property of the public. It's really no different then any of the producers here who provides images of their works anywhere online. The person who made the recording is the copyright holder, end of conversation.

 

In respect to public domain. There are specific requirements that would make an image become part of the public domain. One of which is when the copyright holder of the image specifically "releases" it for use in the public domain. Uploading a video on youtube does not mean it becomes part of the "public domain". Copyright still applies, and examples are plentiful, from the producers here, who use youtube, to Youtube themselves, which takes infringement seriously and enforces their rules regarding copyright. You cannot determine the intent of the person who made the image, if they chose to fully release their copyright or maintain ownership of the images. This means, you really have no clue what is actually part of the public domain. I can tell you one sure fire way that the person still considers the videos theirs….They uploaded their videos to an account they created, and in some cases took them down. Thats enough to say, that they control the images and therefore they have maintained a copyright. My suggestion, have a really good lawyer on retainment, just in case somebody discovers that you've uploaded their images to your website and are charging a fee to see it.

 

 

 

 

In reply to Message (67116.2.2) None Re:Unethical YOUR WRONG JACK

By babyspet. - kelliandsam24@gmail.com us Thu 21/04/16 22:03:56 GMT

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I believe you need to kmow  something about public Domain....IT'S FREE...Do you know intodays  society, once you leave your home, you are on camera, everywhere you go, even in the stores, outside in parking lots, street corners, etc...I ran in the little problem with a smart ass detective in NV years ago...I was filming public domain NOT CHILDREN  you can only do  adults, and they were women getting wet, she asked about permission and I fired back, does this city have to have my permission to video me on the streets or anywhere outside my residence?  SHE backed off quicker than jack shit..I loved it...Now We do no amd I mean not steal someones copyrite material for our profit gain..We use only youtubes that are in"PUBLIC DOMAIN"    That means these people knew damn well when they put up their faces on youtube, they we opened for the public to see and capture...They wanted to be a star just like you hear people are always wanting themselves to got ""VIRAL""  they did at the cost of their privacy..Their choice....and remember  everyone..ALL CHOICES HAVE CONSEQUENCES...ALL"  whether good or bad   So just remember I am part of this community to contribute to it..If we charge a minor fee to pay for our cost so it be...Are you one of those new people  after 2010 that always wanted something for free....You should have been on the wetlook sites  prior to 2005  when just about all producers and pool parties were FREE...Now it is not...That is not my fault, just like your age,  you missed the boat...don't complain"

 

   From whjat I am seeing on Paypal and over 40 members, we must be doing something good and pleasing someone...

 

                                    www.Babyspet.com

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By Anonymous - uu Thu 21/04/16 06:37:49 GMT

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You're website is highly problematic. The snippets from TV, fine, but the personal videos should not be there. Owners have chosen to take them down (probably due to the unwanted attention they were receiving) and now you have built a website where they still exist for profit without consent. I'm sure if any of the people in the videos found out they would be outraged.
In reply to Message (67116) Happy 12 snippet trailer aded to Babyspet.com

By bbpetwebmaster - bbpetsite@gmail.com us Wed 20/04/16 23:00:19 GMT

Website: http://www.babyspet.com// babyspet.com


We have added a trailer to give you a idea of what"s on the site, these snippets are from only 12 clips I randomly picked out.  there are over 600 clips on actual site.  the trailer is right on the homepage for those who want to get a better idea of what is on the site.

 

http://www.babyspet.com/samplepage/Babyspet-trailer.mp4  or just right click and save from link if you prefer

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