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Subject: Re:It's more than just a lack of politeness or tact and

Date: Sun 21/08/16 19:32:18 GMT

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Interesting observations.

I would just add my 2 cents

1) I think the words "fetishism" and "perversion" and the people who are classified by society that way today.....get unfair treatment, when others who follow "mainstream perversions" are today honored and respected and receive accolades and have "pride" parades etc. For me....fetishism and perversion appear to be a mathematical power number.....i.e. when there are millions and millions of you following a certain fetish or perversion, then you gain power and respect, just by the weight of your own numbers and your dollar spending power. Witness the hundreds of s&m bondage conventions held at hotels around the world or the hundreds of gay pride and transgender rallies. Today in 2016 nobody would dare refer to being gay as a perversion or ridicule it, When your special interest group encompasses 5-10% of the population in many countries, you gain respect, not ridicule. However, when you are following a fetish that is extremely minor and only 0.00001% of the population (i.e. only 50,000 people worldwide are wetlook fans, and 75% of those wetlook fans come from 3 main countries, The USA, The UK and Germany) then you are in a such a tiny minority that you become subject to ridicule and your fetish gets labelled with all kinds of derogatory terms that would never be tossed out at the mainstream fetishes and perversions. So, I think that the minor fetish interests such as wetlook get a bad rap and ridicule, when you consider that the mainstream fetishes and perversions get so much respect in all areas of society today....e.g. when you have powerful politicians and world famous celebrities who are openly gay today, people forget that subject matter was once considered a perversion and illegal in many countries (in the UK it was illegal until as recently as 1967).......but when wetlook has ZERO openly wetlook fetishist politicians or celebrities.....you have to remain "in the closet".

2) I also think it is unfair to place all the blame on those people who post inappropriate comments on Youtubes.....especially when many of the posters of those Youtubes are NOT naive and they know exactly what they are doing. Many youtube posters are playing you like a fiddle...they act like matadors waving a red flag at a bull.....and I don't place all the blame on the bull when it charges.....because somebody is deliberately trying to push their hot buttons to provoke the bull into charging. Of course there are naive and innocent posters who post a video and get a response they did not expect.....and then what they normally do is delete or remove their video if they got a response they did not expect. But others, like Little Juice Box, are obviously trying to provoke a response, and they don't take their videos down, because they enjoy teasing and provoking people.

So....I think if any youtube poster was shocked and offended by the inappropriate comments they get....they would take their video down....or....you can block all comments in your youtube profile....or you can delete those comments.....that is the posters prerogative. But if they leave their video online and still let people post comments, then they are obviously doing so to provoke a reaction....whether it be appropriate or inappropriate.

OK, so maybe some wetlook fans act like a bull in a china shop at times......but often many Youtube posters act like matadors and are waving a red flag at the bull to provoke a reaction.

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It's more than just a lack of politeness or tact and

By Hopping Mad - Sun 21/08/16 05:59:55 GMT

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This has always annoyed me about fetishists in general and further perpetuates the stereotype that they have no social skills and live dick-in-hand.

Now I know a good number of us are well adjusted human beings and know better than to do this. But for those of you who do leave these comments, I'm about to rip you to shit for your own good.

See here is the thing, the Internet is great for wetlook, you have a constant stream of awesome samples from the producers, you have a medium in which to communicate with others who share your interest, you are lucky, 25 years ago this didn't exist.

Now in the age of the Internet celebrity, we have an infinite number of attention-whores who will do anything to be noticed. They are not wetlook fetishists like you, their reasons for getting wet are: attention, dares, money and attention. So now that we see they are not getting wet because they want to bath in jeans and rub one out, you are going to have to understand how to communicate with a normal woman.

See here is the thing, these girls doing the bath challenge are being exposed to wetlook in a means that is new and effective. There is a good chance that a small percentage of them will like it and that some will hate it. You have no control over that. Now let's say a girl baths in her clothes on YouTube and likes it, then is bombarded by a bunch of leering creeps telling her to get wet in jeans, or shoes, or socks or whatever next time. What effect do you really think this we'll have? Do you think a girl gets turned on by the thought of her obese 50 year old neighbour watching her undress through her bedroom window? Or having herself videoed by a covert camera in a toilet cubicle while she takes a dump? If you answered yes, then you have some serious issues and I'm done there, see a therapist before you end up in jail. This is no different, those comments are the Internet equivalent of what I just described, you end up creeping the girl out, the video gets taken down and she sure as hell won't do another one, let alone one with what you asked for and wetlook becomes a negative memory for her.

Now honestly there is no shame in saying "You looked gorgeous in that video" or even admitting you like wetlook in a tactful tasteful way, the same way you would tell the girl at the bar she is beautiful with the intention of taking her home. But she owes you nothing. As said above, if you want to see a girl bath in jeans, pay for a custom on UMD and you'll get a legally binding contract. You get what you want and you don't make everyone else look as pathetic as you.

I wouldn't doubt a lot of the creepiness comes from guys with no self esteem exercising the only form of control they have over a woman and that is on the individual to fix, otherwise they will end up in the same vicious cycle and I can assure you that person never will have a pretty girl of their own to bath with until the cycle is broken.

So the cliff notes:

- Stop posting creepy comments on YouTube videos

- You are making us all look bad

- You are killing wetlook and turning it into a perversion

- Seek help for your low self esteem

PS for what it's worth I definitely think Little Juice Box is into wetlook on some level. The quirk of sitting in a bath in jeans is stupid if she islooking for any substantive attention. The view counts are high because of wetlook fetishists and that video shows she is aware of it. She hasn't gotten noticed by anyone but because of it and it seems an innocent outlet for her. Could be wrong but it's my two cents.

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Re:Youtube video illustrates lack of tact/politeness from some wetlook fans

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net Sat 20/08/16 19:57:46 GMT

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People who post videos on Youtube do so in pursuit of their "15 minutes of fame" (see the Wikipedia article which even cites Youtube https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/15_minutes_of_fame ), and this applies as much to "Little Juice Box" (the girl in question here) as anyone else.

By all appearances, she's just trying to carve out her 15 minutes by being harmlessly quirky; speaking from her clothed-in-the-bath pulpit certainly qualifies as quirky, though by no means unique. I haven't yet uncovered her inspiration for doing so, but then I have better things to do with my time. If she chooses to accommodate a viewer request, it is to keep her viewership engaged and consequently build up her view counts to earn ad revenue or perhaps just for the sake of vanity.

The people behind the comments she singled out DON'T GET THIS. They incorrectly assume she is serving their fetish, where she is in fact doing as I've just described. But then it's easy to be misled when the host/hostess of your favorite channel actually responds to feedback, maybe even answers YOUR request (oh goody! :))

What this really demonstrates is an example of people on both sides of Youtube - those on-camera, and those who are just viewers/commenters, who have a very self-centric perspective on the world ("it's all about me"). Or at least their interaction with Youtube is a very self-serving, self-indulgent part of what is hopefully an otherwise more balanced life.

To her I would say: Don't be creeped out, even though you have every reason to be. Maybe find another quirk, but then you'll just attract different requests which are bound to be equally creepy.

To her fans who are also wetlook/WAM fans I would say: leave this girl (and other similar Youtubers) alone. Save your pennies and hire a WAM/wetlook producer to shoot a custom for you. Or find a real-life partner to satisfy your specific kink. Trolling Youtube in an attempt to get it for free isn't likely to get you anywhere, and at best will only get you mocked/blocked/banned.

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Youtube video illustrates lack of tact/politeness from some wetlook fans

By Wetlongskirts - Sat 20/08/16 16:02:50 GMT

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The Youtube video I've linked to below contains a little wetlook, but is interesting for a different reason. The lady in question (who's 22) has produced a series of these videos (she's actually provided links to them in the video description) and has used this particular one to go through some of the comments she's received in response to previous ones she's made of this type. Listening to her reading out some of the comments, it's shame that some people who are into wetlook aren't more tactful and/or polite when adding comments to Youtube videos. If they were, they might stand a better chance of their request being honoured. She at least deals with it in good spirit and hasn't (yet) been put off making further ones.

I hope anyone who adds a comment in response to this latest video is more subtle and pleasant about it, rather than just coming across like a complete weirdo, which is what happens too often. Youtube is notorious for this of course. Here's the video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jYIXHgIr10U

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