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Subject: Film/AVI Re:Thanks for the answers guys

Date: Thu 29/09/16 00:05:05 GMT

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Thanks for the support guys. FYI I just posted 25 mins of new Moscow fountains scenes from the Summer 2016 shootings, so you can see them on Youtube...

 

https://youtu.be/Anjp-mcPE90

 

You may wish to save this while you can, cos my last 4 Youtube accounts were deleted unexpectedly by Youtube, as they claimed my wetlook model scenes as well as the candid clips were deemed to violate Youtube rules as they claimed my videos were promoting what they called "spam and deceptive site" and a "potential scam"....go figure. I cannot fathom what they meant, but because I cannot trust Youtube these days I prefer to upload videos to Facebook and Twitter instead, cos they have far more lenient rules on fetish media.

 

MK

In reply to Message (68407.2.1.1) Thumbs Up Thanks for the answers guys

By Andrew - us Wed 28/09/16 10:03:38 GMT

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Not wrath. Seeking explanation for a moral dillema. I won't do anything to make it diseapper, don't worry about thar. Just wanted some answers. And I did get some. The difference with Youtubes is that they are free, so no commercial usage, that is why I wasn't reffering to them.

 

Anyway, thanks for the answers guys.

 

I'm not sure the paparazzi comparison really stands by law as most laws have a definition of public figures, which usually an actior would be qualified as, a random girl in the fountain, not.

 

However I like the link explaining about recording stuff in public. This one looks good, like they really can be considered legal :)

In reply to Message (68407.2.1) Hello mmm

By plonss - nl Wed 28/09/16 08:27:12 GMT

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It seems one of the best candid wetlook sites ( at least to my taste) around here is the object of your wrath. Personally I would very much regret their disappearance because of a legal problem, no modelled wetlook can replace the charm of candids.

 

When it comes to law, what about the many youtube sites using shamelessly the material of others ? Actually, at first I thought you referred to them...

In reply to Message (68407.2) None Re:How are some sites legal? Commercial use of candids?

By N - uu Wed 28/09/16 07:56:09 GMT

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It is legal - this is effectively how Paparazzi photographers operate.

 

As long as the public has general access to the area, you are allowed to photograph anybody and sell those images.

In reply to Message (68407) Question How are some sites legal? Commercial use of candids?

By Andrew - us Wed 28/09/16 00:49:12 GMT

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No names, as they are run by the greats of wetlook who often reply here in a manner implying that they own the place, but, there are some sites which are blatently illegal by all laws (US, European, Russian...) - that's according to my knowledge from law school (EU common law specialization)

 

I am talking about commercially selling Russian, Ukrainian etc CANDID fountain clips

 

This is COMMERCIAL  usage, unlike private albums

 

These are usually dubbed college girls, but are cleraly often not, some look way younger than 18!!!

 

I assume there are no relese forms (impossible to do with so many) and no parent release forms either

 

This seems totally  illegal in every country

 

Yet, these sites exist in our community, use supposedly respectable payment processors etc

 

I really don't want to attack one of the greats of wetlook who has the largest store of such clips, but this just doesn't feel right. When I first saw the links I really had the urge to report them to the payment company and some cointries authorities (think minor protective services)

 

I know the owner of said store (as well as owners of the smaller ones) can be really harsh and impolite when asked hard questions (a late row with the forum admin for instance), but this has been bugging me for a long time and I really need an answer.

 

So please admins don't censor the post and let those people answer how are their businesses legal when they seem anything but.

 

It will make buying their products possible with a clear consious if they give proof of being legal

 

And probably not only for me, as quite a few people here have a problem with candids, even all candids, not just commercially used candids.


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