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Message # 42610.1.2.1.1 Subject: true and false Date: Sat 09/01/10 00:54:26 GMT Name: X_Wet_X |
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When swimming fully clothed it isn't more dangerous than swimming with normal swim clothed. It isn't true that the clothes get heavier IN the water, because they suck up water despite water is all around. Basic physics tells you that due to buoyancy the weight of the clothes pulling you down in the water is the same as the weight of the dry clothes pulling you down on the land. In a sailing course, which I took many many years ago, my trainer told me, if I ever fell into the water, I have to keep the clothes on to stay warm and he explained me the lie about getting pulled down by the clothes.
On the other hand there is a problem, when you get out of the water: the clothes are still fully suck with water and in the air the buoyancy is negliable. This fact causes a problem if a lifeguard has to pull you out of the sea onto a boat. But it isn't a problem if the lifeguard just has to swim with you back to the coast (save a little higher friction with the water, but that's not much). |
In reply to Message (42610.1.2.1) Re:NZ lifeguards against clothed swims
By alonzo - Thu 07/01/10 10:29:20 GMT yeah, the guards in the article seem to be little perverts and/or self-important baboons who mix up coincidence and cause. if somebody can't swim or swims in a region where nobody should swim in the first place, it doesn't really matter much if they wear clothes or not. if you're not strong enough, lacking experience, and don't know the currents, you shouldn't go swimming in the surf at all. a hoodie and baggies may only add to your demise but are not decisive. the resistance and weight of a tight jeans, however, is irrelevant, as are cutoffs or tees.
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In reply to Message (42610.1.2) Re:NZ lifeguards against clothed swims
By sjakie - Wed 06/01/10 20:31:39 GMT It is better that the people in NZ learn to swim better, and the best way to learn to swim is fully clothed (in a pool). The new swimshorts are mostly very long, over the knees. That is much as heavy as wearing a shirt and jeansshorts in the water.
And another fact. In Australia (and Holland) the health instances advices to wear a shirt in the water when you burn in the sun very quickly.
It looks to be the Lifequards in New Zealand are a bunch of sexist, who want to see the girls almost naked. |
In reply to Message (42610.1) Re:NZ lifeguards against clothed swims
By Anonymous - Wed 06/01/10 18:14:28 GMT We should be careful not to trivialize dangerous things just because we like doing them (or watch others do them). Swimming out 300m with your clothes on in water that you aren't supposed to swim in anyway beacuse of dangerous conditions just isn't a good idea (as common sense would suggest), and we shouldn't encourage others to do that (and also be very careful when we try to do such things ourselves). On the other hand: going for a quick dip in the pool or near the shore (if the water isn't too rough) probably won't hurt you (or others). In any case we need to be careful: Such accidents do happen and often could be avoided. |
In reply to Message (42610) NZ lifeguards against clothed swims
By ssiei - Wed 06/01/10 17:06:42 GMT Just read an article where again so-called lifeguards in New Zealand give credit to the old legend that it's extremely dangerous to swim clothed. It turns out that this could even mean wearing as little as jean shorts and T-shirts - I'd call it almost naked... If this old legend was true, we'd find sky-high Asian and Latin America drowning figures and almost no cases in western countries! It is clearly not so. I don't have exact data but there doesn't seem to be any significant difference between world averages. But legends are very little ralated to facts...
http://tvnz.co.nz/national-news/lifeguards-in-summer-swimming-warning-3318844
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