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Message # 40142.1.2.1

Subject: Re: ...fyi

Date: Sun 17/05/09 19:32:13 GMT

Name: MK

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fyi....there are lots of "cheating tricks" in tv and film industry where they try to fool the average public that a wetlook scene has taken place, but those cheating tricks don't fool the eagle eyes of the purist wetlook fans....the most common cheats being...

a) the stereotypical tv soap opera scene....where there are no exterior location shots and it is all shot on a soundstage, and where they attempt to fake a wet scene by having fake thunderstorm sound effects, and then the girl enters the room with wet hair....but you can see that her clothes are dry, and they were lazy...cos the only thing they did was to wet her hair down.

b) a very common fake wetlook trick is often what you see in music videos....where there is a girl and rainshowers....but if you look closely, you see that the showers are only in FRONT of the girl where the camera lens is, and the girl is standing BEHIND the water, so she is not getting wet at all.

To be fair to soap operas....they used to be notoriously bad for faking wetlook scenes in the past, but in more recent years they have gotten a lot better and now their wetlook scenes are done properly.

To be fair to Hollywood....it is not only wetlook that they fake a lot of the time (mostly out of sheer laziness).....they fake the nudity a lot more than they do the wetlook.....i.e. whenever you see a famous actress in a supposed nude scene....unless you see her HEAD and her boobs in the SAME shot, and you only see her head and boobs separately in panned shots, you can be 99% sure that this is faked scene where they inserted a body double to do the nudity.

Sometimes the continuity errors in famous wetlook scenes from tv and movies just crack me up....i.e. in the 1988 tv miniseries series "Noble House" with Pierce Brosnan, there is a scene where a chinese boat catches fire and several nicely clothed ladies have to jump off the boat and swim to a lifeboat. One of those actresses is Julia Nickson (ex Mrs David Soul) who is wearing a white minidress as she jumps off the boat. As she (or rather, her body double) jumps off the boat, her skirt flies up and exposes her black panties, but when she swims to the boat and gets onto the boat, now we see she is wearing WHITE panties. All I can say is, either Julia Nickson performed the most amazing panty changing act in history, while jumping off a boat, or somebody forgot to tell her body double that Julia was wearing a different colored panties....ha ha

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Re: ...fyi

By Sunboyfun - sunboyfun@gmail.com Sun 17/05/09 16:35:27 GMT

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You hit the wet nail on the head for sure. I used to notice the continuity issue on all the old Disney movies, where someone would emerge soaked and the next frame be damp or dry. I was at once frustrated by it and then amused at the absurdity.

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...fyi

By MK - wamtec@comcast.net Sun 17/05/09 15:12:54 GMT

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...all good film makers know this, especially wetlook producers know it it. The wet "look" of shiny wet and clingy clothes can only be seen on camera for no more than a minute after exiting the water. After one minute, all you can see on camera is a "damp" look, and seeing as Hollywood movies always take HOURS AND HOURS between takes for any scene, unless you constantly wet the girl down again before each take, then you will have lost the continuity of that scene, cos then the girl seems to be too dry in the next shot etc.

Famous directors John Ford and Robert Wise certainly knew this. In fact, when John Ford was shooting the John Wayne film "The Wings of Eagles" there is a scene in that film where Maureen O Hara runs into the lake wearing her formal sunday church dress, and in between re-takes for that scene John Ford would take sadistic delight in pouring additional buckets of water over Maureen before each take (much to her chagrin, and to John Wayne's delight...cos he would egg Ford on to keep doing it just to irritate the actress) and you there are still photos of an indignant Maureen standing there aas Ford was pouring extra buckets of water over her.

Even better evidence exists on 16mm home movie footage, that director Robert Wise shot on his personal movie camera, while was directing Julie Andrews in the famous wetlook boat dunking scene from "The Sound of Music", cos they spent all day to shoot that boat scene and they had to constanty keep hosing Julie down again in between each take, cos Wise said she looked too dry and wanted her to be dripping wet for each re-take. And that footage of Wise's home movie camera outtakes of those hosing down scenes has now been restored and added as a DVD extra to the 40th Anniversary Edition release of that film.

When I was shooting our feature length productions, "The Adventures of Aquagirl" and "Agent H20" series, we spent 3 weeks shooting those things on location, and each of those features has over 50 scenes that were shot in over a dozen different locations, and we had to shoot many of the topside and underwater scenes in "different" locations....just as they do in Hollywood....i.e. we shot many of the topside scenes in Tampa Bay, but you cannot shoot underwater scenes there, cos the water is too murky, so we shot the underwater scenes in the Bahamas, so we had to re-stage every scene to make sure that the girls clothing matched exactly and so you take still photos at the end of each scene to make sure that when you re-stage it somewhere else, that the girls are wearing the exact same clothes and nothing is missing (i.e. like a piece of jewellery or a different hairstyle etc). We were constantly having problems with wetlook that was "disappearing" within minutes, cos filming under a hot sun, the clothes would dry in between the time it takes for a cameraman to change his batteries and insert a new tape and re-stage the scene.....so I made it my "job" to make sure we wetted the girls down again before every re-take, and like Robert Wise....I kept my behind the scenes footage of the wetting down outtakes scenes too.

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What a pitty

By sjakie - Sun 17/05/09 09:08:27 GMT

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Sometimes you see in a movie some girls swim fully clothed and when they came out they are dry at once. In this scene it is happening the same. No one could believe the reality off this scene. The director should be fired at once

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h3BCaA6eEvA

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