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Message # 54935.1.1.3.1

Subject: Re:...here are the stats

Date: Sun 15/07/12 04:33:55 GMT

Name: MK

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That is true...not all wam sites are listed. Some webmaster declined to participate and they requested not to be listed, and some webmasters did not wish to reciprocate with our site and to include our back link banner (which is normal protocol on all banner exchange sites....i.e. we display your banner for free if you display our banner on our site too...wihich is how Nigel operates with his banner exchanges too)....so our site is entirely optional, and some webmasters chose not to participate. Our site is free for all wam webmasters to promote their banners and weekly updates....on our whats new page....it's a freew service that allows any webmaster to promote their latest updates.....see here

http://topwam.com/

But some producers do not like the site because they do not like the Alexa traffic results and their gathering algorhyms and methodology.......which is a legitimate concern cos some of their stats make no sense to me either....but even if the Alexa system has flaws.....it is fair, cos it treats all wam producers using the same flaws.....so it may be flawed...but it is also completely unbiased because it treats every site the same way.

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Re:...here are the stats

By Anonymous - Sat 14/07/12 09:07:42 GMT

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...here are the stats

By MK - wamtec@comcast.net Fri 13/07/12 23:06:05 GMT

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It is true, this forum is not only more successful in terms of traffic than any other forum in the wet & messy genre, it is now ranked number 1 as the most visited site of any kind in the wet & messy world, and now beats the UMD forum for traffic too. Both UMD and this forum were created in 1998, and historically over the last 14 years UMD has always led this forum in traffic rankings, but for some reason UMD's traffic has slipped in the last 6 month or so while this forums traffic has remained constant and now has overtaken UMD to gain the number one spot.

The data is all here on our Topwam rankings site.

http://topwam.com/toplist.php

This data is gathered independently from the Alexa traffic rankings site (which is owned by Amazon.com --so the rankings data is not influenced by anybody from the wam world).

For years UMD has always held the number one spot cos their forum has all the bells and whistles and features that this forum does not have...but for some weird reason UMD's traffic has been going downhill in the last 6 months while this forum's traffic has remained constant. I am pretty sure I know the reason why this wetlook forum ranks number 1 and the Styx wetlook forum is number 8 in the rankings.....and the owners of that forum know the reasons too....i.e. this forum allows candid media to be posted and also focuses on Youtube links a lot, while the Styx wetlook forum has always banned candid videos and does not encourage youtube postings....and that was their decision and perogative to do that.....so this forum is much more diverse and liberal, whereas the Styx wetlook forum is mostly focused on modelled wetlook only....and they prefer things that way.

The real mystery to me is why UMD's traffic has dropped off so much in the last 6 months....cos this forum's traffic has remained constant.....so this is like a top of the line Mercedes that is running out of gas...and gets overtaken by a more fuel efficient pickup truck....ha ha

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Re:Why is this forum so much more successful than others?

By AnthonyX - anthonyx@jowc.net Fri 13/07/12 22:27:39 GMT

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True, there is a lot of freedom here.

The downside you identified is actually an absence of accountability, which is what a membership system would create, even if only in a small way. Being accountable for your words doesn't deprive you of the freedom to express yourself, but perhaps it prompts you to adequately consider the effect those words will have on others before you utter them.

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Why is this forum so much more successful than others?

By walter - Fri 13/07/12 22:03:39 GMT

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Because it's open, with no tedious joining or registering rigmarole. Even a lurker may like to say "thank you" for something especially good; a casual visitor may make a contribution.

The downside is you sometimes get comedians making a nuisance of themselves, but on balance free speech works best.

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